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1 REALLY????? on Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:26 pm



LOSSERVATORE-OBAMA Apr-29-2009 (280 words) xxxi

Vatican newspaper: No radical changes in Obama's first 100 days

By John Thavis
Catholic News Service

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- The Vatican newspaper said President Barack Obama's first 100 days in office have not confirmed the Catholic Church's worst fears about radical policy changes in ethical areas.

The comments came in a front-page article April 29 in L'Osservatore Romano, under the headline, "The 100 days that did not shake the world." It said the new president has operated with more caution than predicted in most areas, including economics and international relations.

"On ethical questions, too -- which from the time of the electoral campaign have been the subject of strong worries by the Catholic bishops -- Obama does not seem to have confirmed the radical innovations that he had discussed," it said.

It said the new draft guidelines for stem-cell research, for example, did not constitute the major change in policy that was foreseen a few months ago.

"(The guidelines) do not allow the creation of new embryos for research or therapeutic purposes, for cloning or for reproductive ends, and federal funds may be used only for experimentation with excess embryos," it said.

It added that the new guidelines "do not remove the reasons for criticism in the face of unacceptable forms of bioengineering" but are "less permissive" than expected.

The article saw a positive sign in the recent introduction of the Pregnant Women Support Act, which would help women overcome problems that often cause them to have abortions. It was sponsored by a group of pro-life Democrats.

"It is not a negation of the doctrine expressed up to now by Obama in the matter of interruption of pregnancy, but the legislative project could represent a rebalancing in support of maternity," the newspaper said.


See my response below...
Linda nunangry:

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“Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, but to use violence to get what they want. That is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion…"
..Mother Teresa

2 THE TRUTH!!! on Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:32 pm



One would have you believe the, excuse my inability or lack thereof a better word for it, "garbage!" read this carefully; it reflects a completely different view, uh, something like the truth!!!

Huh? Vatican newspaper: No radical changes in Obama's first 100 days
In counter-point to my previous post, John Thavis of Catholic News Service:

"The Vatican newspaper said President Barack Obama's first 100 days in office have not confirmed the Catholic Church's worst fears about radical policy changes in ethical areas.

"On ethical questions, too -- which from the time of the electoral campaign have been the subject of strong worries by the Catholic bishops -- Obama does not seem to have confirmed the radical innovations that he had discussed," it said. (CNS)

Just because Obama has not (yet) delivered on his most extreme promises (including promises to repeal all restrictions on abortion access in America), does not by any means rule out that his administration is far more pro-abortion/embryonic stem cell research than the previous one. And good heavens, we're only 100 days into his presidential term and he's had his hands full with the economy.

Contrast the above editorial with what Cardinal George, the President of the US bishops, said after meeting with Obama and discussion abortion with him:

"I think on the life issue he's on the wrong side of history," the cardinal said. "I think he has his political debts to pay, and so he's paying them."

"[Obama] said we weren't exporting abortion," the cardinal said. "I said, 'Yes we are.' He would say, 'I know I have to do certain things here. ... But be patient and you'll see the pattern will change.' I said, 'Mr. President, you've given us nothing but the wrong signals on this issue.' So, we'll see, but I'm not as hopeful now as I was when he was first elected."

Hoping things will change is one thing, but ignoring all the signs that they won't is delusional.
Meanwhile, frog in pot of boiling water reports: "Feeling pretty good so far!"

{NB: because I see some people already making this mistake in the comments thread - this is a Vatican newspaper, not the Vatican. I'm waiting to track down the exact author, context, etc.}

Don't get my Irish up!!!

nunangry: nunangry: nunangry:

“Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, but to use violence to get what they want. That is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion…"
..Mother Teresa

3 Re: REALLY????? on Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:16 am


President Obama's First 100 Days: Major Abortion Promotion, Attacking Pro-Lifers

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
April 29, 2009

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Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- President Barack Obama marks his first 100 days in the White House today and his record is replete with aggressive promotion of abortion and attacks on pro-life advocates. Obama has used tax dollars to pay for abortion and embryonic stem cell research and stacked his administration with abortion advocates.

The president's litany of anti-life decisions began immediately after his election in November, when he selected a long-time abortion advocate as his White House chief of staff.

Obama began fulfilling his promises to abortion advocates during his first week in office when he overturned the Mexico City Policy that prevented forcing taxpayers to fund groups that promote and perform abortions in other countries.

Instead of urging Americans to honor and respect the dignity and worth of human life as other presidents have done, Obama used the 36th anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision to celebrate the 50 million abortions that have been done since then.

Janice Shaw Crouse, of Concerned Women for America, says the media presentation of Obama's first 100 days likely won't feature an overview of his extensive pro-abortion record.

"The media hype about President Obama's first 100 days spares no cliché or hyperbole in trying to convince America that our new president ranks among our nation's greatest," she told LifeNews.com.

"The political commentators need to take off their rose-colored glasses and stop bending over backwards to describe Obama's policies as moderate and his changes as positive advances for freedom and democracy around the world," says Crouse. "Underneath all the media visuals that make a compelling story, there is the sobering reality that this president is very divisive and extremely partisan."

She condemns Obama for "restructuring the domestic social policies of the United States of America by usurping the basic foundation stones of America's domestic policies and the pro-life ... stances that have made this nation the envy of the rest of the world."

Even those who say they want to work with Obama are concerned about his extensive pro-abortion record.

Frank Page, leader of Taylors Baptist Church and a member of Obama's White House faith committee, told CBN News, "By and large I have not been very encouraged by our president's first 100 days in regards to pro-life issues, in regards to sensitivity to the evangelical community."

"I have not been surprised by anything our president has done, but I have been surprised at the rapidity with which he has done what he has done," Page added. "[The] removal of what few protections there are for example regarding innocent unborn babies-- this has happened quickly."

During his first two months, Obama put people in key policy positions in the White House, Justice Department and his Cabinet who are not only abortion advocates but former staff and board members for top pro-abortion organizations like Emily's List and NARAL.

Obama's second major pro-abortion policy decision came in February when he proposed overturning pro-life conscience protections President Bush put in place to make sure medical staff and centers are not forced to do abortions.

One day later, he nominated pro-abortion Kathleen Sebelius to become Secretary of Health and Human Services and she is expected to put that decision in place now that she has been confirmed by the Senate.

In his third decision, Obama announced $50 million for the UNFPA, the UN population agency that has been criticized for promoting abortion and working closely with Chinese population control officials who use forced abortions and involuntary sterilizations.

Obama's fourth major policy decision saw him sign an executive order forcing taxpayer funding of embryonic stem cell research.

The Obama administration has also aggressively attacked pro-life advocates.

In March, Obama's team shut out pro-life groups from attending a White House-sponsored health care summit. Planned Parenthood, the nation's largest abortion business, made the invitation list as did other pro-abortion groups.

Then, earlier this month, the Obama administration released a document that claims pro-life people may engage in violence or extremism.

The future doesn't appear to hold anything different when it comes to Obama promoting abortion.

Obama made his first judicial appointment and named pro-abortion federal Judge David Hamilton to serve on the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals. Other judges, including potential Supreme Court nominees, are expected to be pro-abortion as well.

4 Re: REALLY????? on Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:33 am


Thank you Cyndi, Linda and Steven...I am so glad that we who stand for Life can discuss this and not get BAN or LOCK the thread because we don't agree with obama. How can you consider the pros and cons without mentioning obama? If this was on a certain forum you guys would be BANNED. O, I forgot Cyndi and Linda both BANNED for speaking the truth. God Bless you guys angel

5 Re: REALLY????? on Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:24 pm



Which side of our mouth shall we talk out of today?

Obama Addresses Abortion

Posted by Tom McFeely

Thursday, April 30, 2009 2:04 PM

The following is the text of President Barack Obama’s remarks regarding abortion at his White House press conference yesterday evening. The comments begin at the 32:00 minute mark of the above video:
Ed Henry, CNN Senior White House Correspondent: Thank you, Mr. President. In a couple of weeks you’re going to be giving the commencement at Notre Dame and, as you know, this has caused a lot of controversy among Catholics who are opposed to your position on abortion. As a candidate you vowed that one of the very first things you wanted to do was sign the freedom of choice act, which, as you know, would eliminate federal, state, and local restrictions on abortion. And at one point in the campaign when asked about abortion and life, you said that it was “above my pay grade.” Now that you’ve been President for a hundred days, obviously your pay grade is a little higher than when you were a senator (laughter) — do you still hope that Congress quickly sends you the freedom of choice act so you can sign it?
President Obama: You know, my view on abortion I think has been very consistent. I think abortion is a moral issue and an ethical issue. I think that those who are pro-choice make a mistake when they — if they suggest — and I don’t want to create straw men here, but I think there are some who suggest that this is simply an issue about women’s freedom and that there’s no other considerations. I think, look, this is an issue that people have to wrestle with, and families and individual women have to wrestle with.
The reason I’m pro-choice is because I don’t think women take that position casually. I think that they struggle with these decisions each and every day, and I think they are in a better position to make these decisions ultimately than members of Congress or a President of the United States — in consultation with their families, with their doctors, with their clergy. So that’s been my consistent position.
The other thing that I said consistently during the campaign is I would like to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies that result in women feeling compelled to get an abortion or at least considering getting an abortion, particularly if we can reduce the number of teen pregnancies, which has started to spike up again. And so I’ve got a task force within the Domestic Policy Council in the West Wing of the White House that is working with groups both in the pro-choice camp and in the pro-life camp to see if we can arrive at some consensus on that.
Now, the freedom of choice act is not my highest legislative priority. I believe that women should have the right to choose, but I think that the most important thing we can do to tamp down some of the anger surrounding this issue is to focus on those areas that we can agree on. And that’s where I’m going to focus.

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